I don’t care.
Shut up about the game.
Don’t fucking say a thing about it until its like 6 months from launch.
Did they learn nothing from last time?!
You can start any time, for example ignore the news?
Learn what? They’ve been relativly silent throughout the 12 years from announcement to release.
I will put it on my calendar for 2035.
By the time Cyberpunk 2 comes out, I’ll have my own Keanu installed in my brain.
You won’t get Keanu. You’ll get trump
By the time it gets fixed & playable, the remainder of Keanu’s body will also need a mind reinstall.
Nice, only 12 more years to go.
Me here just waiting to also not play the next one.
It’s just another flavor of starfield but somehow so much more shittier. Make me a game that doesn’t release looking like it’s a beta release. Then I may be interested.
cyberpunk has nothing to do with starfield.
largely seamless world, fun combat, hand crafted locations, good writing, good story, good and memorable characters, engaging dialogs, multiple ways to finish quests, cool vehicles, and on and on…
oh and forget forcing the player to fast travel everywhere but traveling around in cyberpunk is actually fun so i pretty much never used it in the game despite having the option.
and it looks like no one directed any part of starfield, it’s literally the same as oblivion in terms of how every encounter and dialog unfolds, while starfield actually has direction and variety, well acted and performance captured interactive scenes. here’s a good comparison of two similar quests involving a trade with shady people. just compare how the lines are delivered, how dynamic the scenes are, what happens when threats are involved, whether the scenes have any development, what you can see when the boxes are opened, literally everything.
It’s just another flavor of starfield but somehow so much more shittier
How do you know if you haven’t played it?
You won’t play cyberpunk cause it released in a poor state? Its a different game now.
In fairness is was full jank on release, the initial patches got it to “bethesda jank” where it was fun with the bugs (provided you could actually play it) but still bug ridden.
It got better over time, until just before the “big patch” came in that fully changed how it all worked skills and mechanics wise (gameplay was mostly the same).
Honestly i prefer, pre-“big patch” but the fully patched game is considerably smoother and more coherent.
So, aside from the years of post release development, completely missing features that are never actually coming (looking at you full transit system), it’s actually pretty good.
An absolutely dogshit way of releasing a game, but if you waited for a few years and bought it on discount , it’s actually a really fun game (provided you like that sort of thing).
TBC I’m not justifying anything about this process , it was a major fuckup and many other dev houses would have gone under from the weight of how badly they fucked it up, but they had that witcher money, so.
Looking forward to playing this in 10 years
Good. We need more dicks in video games.
mount your friends
hell yeah
Let’s hope they learned how to properly pace development and to handle a launch this time around.
And so the endless cycle of the borderline CD projekt games continues. Everything is hyped beyond realistic expectations a decade before launch, the masses whipped in anticipation. The game developers are kneecapped by suits making technical changes and demands they don’t understand. The game is launched after sorely felt apologies for delays, as a messy distasteful buggy disaster. Then the devs get to finish the game during thn next five unars after sorely felt apologies for the buggy mess at launch. 5 more years later the game is hailed as a creative masterpiece, despite being held by bubblegum and paperclips under the hood and still being a subpar experience. Then CDPR announces a new game, and the cycle repeats.
We didn’t learn anything from “Bethesda’s magic”. What a mismanaged company.
Endless cycle? Wasn’t everything you described just cyberpunk? Did I miss something about their previous title releases?
Yes, you did. The last step of the cycle is that everyone forgets that this already happened before. The witcher, then the witcher 2, then witcher 3, then cyberpunk. Each was such a mess at launch that the press at the time thought the games would flop. Each time devs, not suits, pulled the games out of PR hell after the fact.
People forget that the console port of the first witcher game nearly bankrupted them.
Just look at this thread people are talking like cyberpunk was always a perfect masterpiece since launch and negative comments are being buried in down votes.
The difference between CDPR and Bethesda is CDPR games always end up being all time greats though. That’s why I don’t get influenced by the hype, and keep faith in them as developers, as well as their move to unreal engine
Bethesda’s games are also celebrated as all time greats.
Games are good, eventually, in spite of the mismanagement, not because of it. At one point they will run out of magic, just like Bethesda did. For said magic is just a ton of good writing and developers putting up with crunch.
Bethesda delivers just good enough for the modding community to pick up the rest and fix their shit. Unofficial patches, Oscuro’s Oblivion Overhaul, and all that.
CDPR fixes their own shit.
Both end up with solid games for patientgamers but damn you gotta be really patient.
Agree to disagree on that, I haven’t played a Bethesda game I’ve considered “good” since Morrowind personally, and on the other hand Cyberpunk is top tier for me.
I played Witcher 3 a few months after it released, and it was nearly bug free, and certainly lived up to most expectations. It had a massive world, every inch of which was crammed with fleshed out interesting stories and characters with character. It was a breathtaking experience from the start, and if it had a few things to work out in the initial weeks, I can understand that.
Maybe about time for me so start the first.
Just looking up what ‘preproduction’ actually means : They are in the planning stages, but they haven’t started ‘making’ the game yet. Cyberpunk (1) development took four years.
Spicy take: I hope they dump 2077’s engine and go Unreal.
I recently followed this guide to try and set up “optimized” path tracing (no raster lighting, with everything raytraced) in 2077, and on my lowly RTX 3090 it runs like cold molasses. Not a chance. Raster + RT reflections is all I can manage, and it looks… good.
Meanwhile, I’ve also been playing Satisfactory (an Unreal Engine game from a comparatively microscopic studio), and holy moly. Unreal Engine’s dynamic lighting looks scary good. Like, I get light bounces and reflections and everything, and it runs at like quadruple the FPS in hilariously complex areas, again, with a fraction of the dev effort.
Cryengine in KCD2 is rather sick as well, though probably less tuned for urban landscapes.
…So why don’t they save a few years and many millions, and just go with one of those instead of poorly reinventing the wheel?
I have good news for you. The first information released on the sequel was that it’s being built in unreal.
That’s what I get for not clicking through!
Good! I can see a ton of gamers complaining about this endlessly, but switching to anything but in-house is a great move IMO.
I hope that if this game is open world then the story at least matches it, unlike the first one.
There were just so many pointless distractions, and hardly any of them lead to anything interesting.
At least everyone knows not to trust this dev anymore and won’t buy the game until it’s actually finished
Sad this likely means the first one never gets finished
The first one was finished, and is a fantastic game.
It was finished and buggy… it’s now finished, fixed and expanded.
If it’s good enough for Gibson, it’s good enough for me.
Right now is where it should have been on release.
Not feature complete to pre-release promises/expectations
You don’t have to lie to justify your purchase, you can enjoy it for what it is
The game is finished. Maybe not finished to your expectations, but it is definitely finished, and is a damn fine action RPG. And Phantom Liberty is the best damn DLC for any game I’ve ever played since the Shivering Isles for Oblivion.
Calling others opinions lies just because you don’t appreciate what they’re saying is what we in the industry like to call a “bitch ass move”.
Reconsider what you responded to and what finished means
I don’t need to reconsider shit, the game is finished, and is amazing.
It was pretty damn solid. I didn’t finish it, I had fun running around blasting gang members. Ducking through alley ways was the shit.
CP2077 was not finished when it came out at the end of 2020.
This revisionist history of it being complete on release will get no traction here.
Literally nobody said that. Your username checks out.
Yeach . It had rocky start but damm disregarding bugs the praises were more than deserved. Literally the best action RPG that exists.
A rocky start? It got removed from the game stores and full refunds given. That’s not a simple “rocky start” the released a pre alpha at full price.
It’s absolutely a fantastic game. I’m glad Gibson is giving his blessing for the sequel, I’m looking forward to it!
Literally the best action RPG that exists.
Spoken like someone that has played about four or five video games in their entire life. It’s not even an RPG. It’s a shitty first person shooter with pointless skill trees tacked on. Even if you were to classify it as an action RPG, it doesn’t crack the top 20.
What a blisteringly stupid thing to say, considering art is subjective.
It absolutley does. Also cyberpunk actually gives you a lot of freedom on how you aproach combat. Can you play it as mindless shooter. Yup . But you can also play deus ex like that and no one calls it a shitty first person shooter ( even tho thats technicaly the easiest way to finish the game ). And as far as the world and story is concerned its equisite. As far as whetewer its an RPG or not. If mass effect is an RPG than so is cyberpunk i think . Very subjective thing in general . Definietly not a hill im willing to die on.
lol, buy?
Speak for yourself choom. I’ll buy that scop on launch day. (I only preorder RGG games cuz they have never missed)
Yeah their greed is disgusting. I wander how many DLCs they’ll make for this next one before it’s finished
Expansion packs have existed since the 90s at least. There were also special editions and stuff before DLCs were possible.
Umm okay? Cool fact bud
Just saying if they do release DLCs and add ons it isn’t something particularly new or particularly greedy.
It is greedy when they ask for more money for “extra” content for an unfinished game.
What are you even talking about? They only shit you had to pay extra for was Phantom Liberty. Every other update or content release has been free.
And it was greedy as hell because when that DLC was announced and released the game was still buggy and unfinished. The game still doesn’t feel complete without the DLC is what I hear from everyone I know and multiple reviews
But I’m still one hour into the first one!
I think I got to the part where they show Johnny Sins doing mischief? I can never get past the fucking vision tutorials after getting the crawling toenail thumb or what ever that fucking bot is called. It’s a slog.
Hopely, this game’s launch is better then the first one.
Shouldn’t be hard unless the bar fell into an open hole in the ground
I started the first one last month and encountered 3 game-breaking-reload-required bugs within the first hour. It still isn’t fixed after all these years.
Edit: I don’t understand why I’m being downvoted for simply sharing my playthrough experience?
Well I’m on my fifth playthrough and have encountered game-breaking bugs maybe 3 times :)
I play on PC, and the only bug I’ve ever experianced was one time an NPC walked into the sidewalk. Other than that, it’s been smooth sailing.
Played until I was helping the cops and symping for corpo life. Aren’t we supposed to be punks off the street? The fuck are we helping cops for? CDPR can’t write.
The fuck are we helping cops for?
Because the coppers have a vigilante system and pay me for fucking these specific groups of gangers and criminals up. And as Vespasian said: money doesn’t stink.
