• Shayeta@feddit.org
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    5 days ago

    It’s unacceptable that in year 2025 companies are refusing to make controllers with hall effect sensors. At this point I can’t think of it as anything other than planned obsolesence in order to sell replacement Joy-cons.

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      4 days ago

      From my understanding, hall effect sticks won’t work in switch 2 joycons, due to magnetic interference from the attachment mechanism. Instead, they would need something else - I hear TMR would be resistant to the magnetic interference.

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        4 days ago

        Is that actually true, or just internet speculation? I remember reading counter points that other devices with magnets used Hall effect sticks without issues.

        The thing is, even the new Pro controller uses potentiometers for the sticks, so I doubt magnetic interference to Hall effect sticks was even a consideration in the Nintendo engineers minds. They were going full potentiometer from day 1.

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          2 days ago

          It’s true- it’s well known that hall effect sensors are magnetically sensitive and do poorly in handhelds (like the steam deck, ROG ally, or joycons on a docked switch) for that exact reason- they can basically only be used in standalone controllers. More to the point, since the HD rumble is magnetically actuated, there’s even more interference than just the main system itself + the connector system. You CAN try to account for that interference, but why would you do that when…

          Hall effect sensors actually have some major downsides- they have poorer centering, increased power draw, the aforementioned magnetic interference issues, the fact they don’t actually solve stick drift, and finally and most concerningly- they have a REALLY low poll rate. I was able to notice the difference when playing celeste with a buddy’s hall effect controllers, for example.

          More to the point, gulikit is definitely engaging in some corporate double-speak here- the switch 2 joy cons use the same analog stick design… that basically every game company has used for decades. NOT the same sticks as the switch 1 joycons. They’re completely different, Nintendo went back to the ‘standard’ design instead of the ‘short’ design that caused the problem in the switch 1.

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    5 days ago

    Shame that it will very likely be needed, but good that a company is willing to step up. The GuliKit Hall effect sticks for Switch served me well since I put them in.

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      4 days ago

      One of mine developed drift again after a couple years. Not calibration related. I ended up buying the Hori joy-con replacements and they’ve worked great so far.