Sure, there was the attempted assassination of Reagan and the fears for Obama as the first black President, but in those cases it was a lone nutter rather than a conspiracy.
How long can Trump crash the market before an angry billionaire decides to take him out? The remaining Koch brother is already pouring money into legal challenges against Trump…
very small… I mean, can you imagine the accuracy needed for a bullet to find his brain?
As long as he doesn’t try to make peace with Communist nations, our MIC won’t kill him like they did to JFK*.
- That’s now a fact since the Kennedy files have been released.
100% chance but mostly because i think that the plan
- Let trump do what he want
- Kill trump
- Put a puppet like vance in is place
- Use trump death to do what they want with the reason of stopping the big bad left
I’ve been saying this for months. How long until 47 “has a stroke.”
Had some polonium tea, fell out a window, then shot himself in the back of the head.
Corner’s report: Looks like suicide to me.
No it needs to be a murder done by “those loony lefties”, otherwise they can’t use it to lock up people like AOC and Bernie Sanders.
I don’t think it’s at all likely. Trump knows he’s hated, and he isn’t about to go and do a parade in a convertible. More importantly, the secret service knows he’s hated and know they screwed up huge in letting someone take a shot at him, so they’ve dialed security up to 11.
Reagan and JFK were shot at a time when they had extremely high approval ratings. It was probably harder for the secret service to stay focused and for everyone to take threats seriously when that was the case.
This isn’t a Hollywood movie where a billionaire can go on the dark web and hire The Jackal or something. If they were to try to place a hit, most of The Jackals out there are probably feds posing as hitmen.
But, let’s say somehow a billionaire could find people willing to make the attempt. Trying to assassinate the US president is a suicide mission. If someone tries to do it as a lone gunman, they’re going up against the entire secret service. They may get the attack in, but they’re almost certainly not going to get away. If it’s a group of attackers, the more people, the more communications, the more communications, the more opportunities for the NSA to spot them.
And, this is one time we don’t have to worry about nation-states attacking the president. The US is punching itself in the dick over and over right now. If you’re someone who wants the US to fail, you just have to stand by and watch. In fact, if an enemy’s surveillance of the US turned up a plan to kill Trump, they’d probably warn the secret service to make sure Trump stays in power as long as possible.
A public assassination like Kennedy’s is meant to send a message. Trump would just have a cardiac event and never come out of the hospital. The real issue will be that he’s old and fat and eats trash, so he could have a legit health problem and die from natural causes easily at his age.
But then, President JD Vance. I don’t think anyone but Peter Thiel and Elon Musk want that. Trump sucks, but he’s the devil you know. Vance could be turboHitler or just hand the whole country to Silicon Valley. Rule by ChatGPT may be the worst of all possible worlds.
YES. This guy gets it. Nobody understands how lucky we are to have this fuckwit as president. Do you see all these actual fascists constantly up in his prostate? Trump was a proof of concept. These taint-lickers are panting to have control. Let’s see how his mouth-breathing paint-eating constituency acts when this fat fuck is dead. Probably no different, but maybe.
Yeah but the difference is Trump has the magnetism and Vance doesn’t? Usually when a cult leader dies the whole cult kinda fizzles out.
Tell that to the Christians. You might even say their leader dying sparked the whole thing.
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i still wonder. HOW DID THAT ONE GUY MISS?!
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Range - Trump was over
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Equipment - AR pattern rifles ( I think it was a Daniel defense) with a red dot sight. That setup is for quick target acquisition and field of view. It is not meant for hitting distant targets.
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Shooting conditions - The shots were taken outdoors, where there was a cross breeze.
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Difficult Target - if you’ve ever seen trump on stage, he has this weird wobble he does all the time, which shifts his head rapidly and unpredictably from side to side multiple feet. He had to get hit in the head too. He probably was wearing soft body armor at this point, and there are multiple ambulances nearby and he gets priority medical care. Anything less than instantly lethal would not take him out. So it had to be a headshot.
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Counter-fire. There are multiple trained and properly equipped snipers guarding trump. There was an armed policeman trying to get on the building with the shooter. This is not simply lying down at a range and taking your time.
TL; DR - it’s not like videogames.
Range - Trump was over 300 yards away from the shooter.
He was around 150 yards. Not 300.
But if he had a proper target rifle in a better long range caliber and a telescopic sight he would have had a much better chance of succeeding.
At that distance and wind conditions a chest shot would have been better. But he aimed for the head.
Fixed, thank you.
Chest shot wouldn’t work. Like I said, at that point in the campaign, the former president has secret service protection and was probably wearing soft armor underneath. Even then, you would need a hit that is instantly lethal. If you hit the lung, liver, or even a major blood vessel, and he still lives because he has priority medical care on standby, so you would need to hit the heart to get the job done. Heart is smaller than head.
Even with soft body armor. A high velocity round like the .300 win mag or 6.5 creedmoor with boat tail JHPs would still zip through like nothing is there. The cavitation that those rounds make is devastating. Also the shooter tried to go for a follow up shot but missed. Double hitting the chest would have been more possible and that would be much more likely to do it.
I am aware of the circumstances that president’s and ex-presidents have in terms of medical support. All of his bodyguards are probably EMT level trained and they probably have a full on trauma team ready. But getting the head under those circumstances would have been tough.
But then again… if he did have a proper target rifle and long range caliber… the head would have been easier to hit and maybe the wind wouldn’t have blown it off course as much.
Was he using 300-win or 6.5? From what I heard it was 223 or 5.56.
He was using a .223.
The rifle he used was a cheap, bottom of the line AR-15. The AR-15s are so popular and made by so many manufacturers that they have super low end and super high end. He had on the lower end.
I do not know what kind of .223 he was using. But that round has been experimented with for so long that there is a load for every occasion. He probably didn’t use decent ammo. You need something that is specifically designed for longer range, precision shooting. The rounds are much more expensive but you do get what you are paying for.
He also used iron sights. No scope. And he was not known as a particularly good shot. It is actually surprising how close he came.
BTW, the .223 would still have penetrated soft body armor even at that distance. Even military vests designed for combat zones don’t stop rifle rounds until it is fired from a few hundred meters. It would not have stopped a .223 to the chest.
I do not know what kind of .223 he was using.
probably whatever the cheapest range grade round was. I doubt he went out and bought ammo specifically for that.
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CIA with Israel killed JFK. Israel picked Trump as the most supportive of genocide. It’s fair that every other politician would still support it, though perhaps not as far as a war on Iran.
The CIA is a “US Corporatist global champion deal facilitator”. But Trump has picked loyalists at the top of intelligence and military apparatus. Unlike the past, where best people, defined as pure warmongering evil devoted, had these jobs, current batch of diaper licking appointees lose their jobs if “crazy daddy” impeached/exterminated from policy relevance.
So none of “JFK’s checks and balances” apply today. Russia war not as important as maximum zionism.
CIA with Israel killed JFK
Yeah, I’m gonna <citation needed> that claim
JFK movie, Oliver Stone, got a lot of it right, with mob cutouts including Jacob Rubenstein. The Israel motivation is the threat to force zionist supremacists to register as foreign agents, and disapproved of Israel’s nuclear program. Global peace rhethoric, and lack of full war on Cuba, Laos, Vietnam made a lot of other enemies within US.
The obvious coverup of the assassination, was not to protect a small gang of agitators where involvement would end, unless they could rat out higher ups.
Your citation is a movie that you think got it right.
Ok then
Would need an insider that turns. That person has to accept death as the trade off. You’ll be hard pressed to find anyone that fits that situation.
Huey Long’s assassin was an insider who felt personally slighted. Trump loves to slight people.
He certainly has a lot of enemies but I don’t think it’s likely with his upped security being President again. I still can’t believe we were an inch short of a Trump free world…
I don’t know that would solve everything anyway. Worst case, he’d become some kind of martyr.
I’d take that chance.
He’s a cult leader. Cults tend to collapse after the cult leader dies. It was so close to the election I don’t think there would have been enough support for another Republican to win in the chaos that would have ensued within the Republican party.
It almost certainly would have resulted in a better future.
Kid shouldn’t have aimed for the head. Harder to hit and nothing there anyway.
When they go low, go center mass.
If youre in america, even as a tourist a few states allow you to buy guns because you dont need an id. That means, lets say a european goes to georgia for example, they could buy a gun and shoot trump without problem, in minecraft of course.
In Australia that was the case until around 1987. No permits for rifles. Some tourist from Germany went to Australia, bought a rifle and went on a shooting spree.
As an American, the craziest thing about that story is that Australia changed their gun laws after that happened. Imagine a government taking reasonable action to save lives… Wild.
One must entertain the notion that maybe this was intentionally perpetrated to bring about those laws, disarm the general populace.
Could have been a lone gunman psycho.
Could have been a planned event, psy-op.
No, one doesn’t have to entertain any such notion. And, one speaking like a monk doesn’t make one sound mysterious or intelligent…
What you’re essentially saying is, we should let something terrible continue to happen, causing many real people (often children) to actually die, because some people are paranoid about something that isn’t happening… In reality, government’s need their civilians. Especially in late-stage capitalist societies were civilians act as value generators or cannon fodder for the ruling class. The more people they have to feed into their profit machines, the better.
There are many counter arguments to the sentiment you shared that show how silly your stance is. I won’t waste my time writing all of them because I think you’re too steeped in your own soup to consider anything that counters what you already believe.
If there is a god, super fucking likely.
If there is a god, he would’ve sent Trump to wreck the awful cancer to the world that is the US.
pretty unlikely, but two people have already tried…
So i guess we can’t leave cards off the table. Just needs the correct moment, and opportune time, which is going to be a huge pain point for any would be attempter. If there are any, they’re likely to be like the first two.
Not to mention we would have JD vance as president at that point, and honestly, i have no idea what happens after that.
Nobody tried, who believes that farce?
people who live in reality? They’ve been the two most real attempts in recent history.
There is no way they would allow someone to get on a roof this close.
Certainly not be on there for long when he already was spotted and reported to the police long before.
The ridiculous ‘wound’ that completely healed in 4 days,
If it were real he would also be under a pile of secret agents and you wouldn’t see an inch of him.
They certainly wouldn’t let him get up for the pompous posed picture with the raised fist.
A complete farce, you would have to be a gullible and not so smart american to believe this embarrassing pathetic spectacle.brother, you’re a conspiracy theorist.
It’s questionable how he got up there, but evidently, he did, and they fucking killed him.
From what i’ve read, he crawled up there shortly before/after trump got up to speak, he hadn’t exactly been sitting up there the entire time. Trump literally was under a pile of secret agents, that was the first thing they did. It’s likely they confirmed shooter down by the point he stood up, if not, trump was just stupid. He’s done stupider things.
the “would” was definitely interesting, but it’s clearly not even a wound. So therefore, yes it could heal in four days, especially if you have extended healthcare for it.
Oh btw, that kid was reported to police, who weren’t in contact with secret service, for some reason. This is all known information. People were trying to draw attention to him, before he started shooting.
A complete farce, you would have to be a gullible and not so smart american to believe this embarrassing pathetic spectacle.
you must not be familiar with assassination attempts historically. Did you know some dude just walked up to shinzo abe and shot him point blank with a pipe shotgun? Surely that wasn’t real.
Everything you say or ‘what you read’ is demonstrably false.
From what i’ve read, he crawled up there shortly before/after trump got up to speak, he hadn’t exactly been sitting up there the entire time
IDK what kind of propagandised and filtered news you get in the banana republic.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c51ydg792ggo
Even that article is wrong bcs there are plenty videos where the public see this dupe get on the roof 30 minutes before, not just “one kid”.that kid was reported to police, who weren’t in contact with secret service, for some reason
No way this would happen in reality.
I have followed this show realtime and didn’t buy it for a minute.
Reporting he was “shot trough the ear” and not having any sign of any wound 4 days later in 4K close ups is not possible.
Extended healthcare can’t do miracles. What a laughable excuse.It’s likely they confirmed shooter down by the point he stood up,
Sure, do you actually believe the potocol is no to take into account a second shooter?
And you admit he got up after this.
Standing there wanting to get his shoes and then having his planned photo.
The SS stood somewhat around him, in no way were they ‘piled up’ on his as they should be constantly.Shinzo Abe or other events are irrelevant.
OC attempts can happen, but here nothing adds up and you can’t but laugh at this pathetic spectacle or the fools believing it.
I think he’s more likely to have a massive Big Mac Attack and just keel over. Which would be a good thing because his opportunist coattail riders will claw each other to pieces trying to be the top dog, or rat or cockroach. It will frag the whole Magapublican party. I just wish he’d hurry it up. Chow down, Donny boy.
Sadly there have been people who lived to be 99 or 100 while having remarkably unhealthy lifestyles.
Wouldn’t really surprise me if Orangeboy happened to possess superlongevity genes. He’s always had pretty incredible luck for stumbling out of the way of just about every consequence of his own actions.
He does. His father lived a damn long time and his grandfather only died when he died due to the Spanish flu during and after WW1.
Died during and after the war - that’s what I call luck!
Praying every day to gods I don’t even believe in.
