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  • For me, it’s just a really simple piece of context in the original post. Intuit, lobbied against the legislation for years and failed. The opposing lobby won, and we got free taxes. So why are you talking about lobby’s when clearly in the context of this post, they succeeded in bringing us good legislation. Which was reversed by a dictator taking a bribe. I do appreciate your interest in engagement in US politics. I just really need to point this fact out because it is annoying.


  • I didn’t even catch the last sentence. OK you’re not from the US and that makes sense. You have a better understanding of US politics the most US citizens. I for one I’m ashamed of that, but you do not have a full grasp of US politics or the history behind them or the processes we use and why we use them. Mixing up words and demonizing normal shit is how we got here


  • The post we’re commenting other states two things. They lobbied against it for years(and failed).

    They donated $1 million to the inauguration dinner and more than likely the campaign to elect Trump…. And that beat out their lobbying investment: lobbying a part of democracy. Unlimited political contributions to pay to manipulate lobbying is undemocratic.

    My point is you guys missed the whole point of the meme that we’re discussing under? Paid lobbying is a real job. Funneling money to lawmakers is not, there is nothing wrong with a paid lobbyist because they exist outside of corporate interests.






  • When we were legalizing cannabis in Maine the local growers had to form a lobby to fight against the out of state corporate growers who also had a powerful lobby. Banning lobbying doesn’t help it just takes away peoples voices. Lobbying is just a group of people pooling resources to enact common legislation or political goals. It’s an important part of the political process people neglect. and it’s been diluted by money. Don’t need to dilute it further with misinformation.


  • I mean someone has to pay the lobbiests. The National Organization for women pays lawyers to write laws for them to present to congress, through lobbiests who are also paid. You want feminist groups who are allowed to write feminist laws and present them to congress right? You want someone to advocate for laws you want right? That’s lobbying?

    Citizens united is what you guys are thinking of. The one where corporations can donate infinite money to politicians? So when a corporate lobby brings anti-feminist legislation, they then contribute lots of money to the politician they are lobbying. And magically the politican ignores their voters and sides with the anti-feminist pro corporate law. That’s citizens united. It’s not a problem with lobbying. You have a problem with corporate lobbys not womans rights lobbys right? You have a problem with your representatives favoring corporate lobbys because they get infinite money throught… DRUM ROLL… Citizens united.

    I really hope this helps.


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    There is nothing wrong with lobbying…. There are lobbies for woman’s rights, black rights, all sorts of good causes have lobbies.

    The politicians just bend over for corporate lobbies. Very important distinction. I think what would fit your argument better is will never happen as long as citizens United exists.




  • Absolutely. As an investor and enjoyer of US markets and economy, I am truly terrified at the ramifications of all this. No safe harbors left to hide in and it appears to be hit the economy with a wrecking ball, and funnel the remaining funds to elon. I’m not so interested in US markets anymore and i can imagine this will have a lasting effect on investor confidence and companies bottom line.

    What confuses me is if you steal all the money and destroy the stock market and USD in the process, what do you even do with the stolen wealth?



  • Oh I know, I’m not a kid and I share your concerns for media literacy for future generations. Part of media literacy will be learning AI. Kids will need to know that reddit is removing real people, and replacing them with AI’s which are harming the AI data bases. Iran and China make propaganda tick tocks and that gets picked up. Russian disinformation seeps through right wing media and into the internet and onto AI’s. I was just talking to the AI about it yesterday it’s very aware. I’m aware. My mom has no idea, and is addicted to facebook products. Media literacy is the problem and there’s really no way to teach it to the people left behind. I’ve been a student of it my whole life and its still a pretty complex problem to grasp. It is made worse by AI. but the solution is not, ignore AI. It’s a tool and if you don’t understand it it will be a tool to control you.



  • To be fair, it is actually quite useful from a business standpoint. I think it’s a tool that you should understand. It can be a crutch but it can also be a pretty good assistant. It’s like any other technology you can adopt.

    They said the same thing about Wikipedia/internt in the early 2000’s and really believed you should have to go to a library to get bonafide sources. I’m sure that’s long gone now judging by literacy rates. You can check the AI’s sources just like a wiki article. Kids are going to need to understand the uses, and drawbacks of this technology.