But supposedly, as said in the show, the house could regain their honor by someone in the house assassinating Dak’Rah, so I don’t get how using technicalities to graft M’Benga would violate that rule.

Relax, Doc. It’s just a bit of lin alg!

Well, actually, what remains of the council eventually does so in the 30th century after the Grim Reaper made a bit too good of a “Your Mom” joke to a child, if you know what I mean.

Did anyone else think, “Why doesn’t Bytha just pull a House Quark and marry, then immediately divorce M’Benga?”

Although I guess M’Benga, unlike Quark, can’t pull the “This isn’t an honorable combat. This is an execution!”

Yeh. Really, I hope this takes full advantage of the 31st century setting, because I feel like there’s so much to explore, even in existing Star Trek societies.

While some might see the Klingons here as beating a dead horse, I really have wanted to know how the Klingons handled the burn. I hope it’s not something dumb like, “My race turned to civil war.”

I think it would be kind of awesome if instead, we had the homeworld Klingons have a cultural shift where they choose to avoid civil war and instead embrace unprecedented collaboration in the hopes of one day attaining their former glory. Of course, this doesn’t mean they quit being warriors; my thought is to keep their teeth sharp, there is a gladiator set up using holodeck and transporter technology where two combatants enter. Then, the computer randomly selects, with the result unknown to the combatants, whether it merely streams the combatant’s presence to each other and prevents lethal blows or actually puts the combatants in a duel to the death (about a 1/20 chance).

Um, actchooally, Descendants predates Disney Plus by a few years.

I’m sad about the TAS episode not being a thing, I’m sad about the puppets being muppets instead of practical creatures, but also, this episode just seems like fun.

It almost reminds me of the Christmas episode of Eureka that was really fun, but may have single-handedly brought the series overbudget. That show was fun, with some flaws:

• Some of the worst autism representation I have seen on television.
• It could never decide if it was a comedy or a drama, although that wishy-washiness sometimes worked in its favor, such as when they decided to stir up the plot by creating an alternate timeline… twice.

(Stares in Miranda Class)

Well, sort of. This series is set in Disco’s 31st century, but Tawny Newsome (played Mariner on Lower Decks) is on the writing staff I think, so let’s hope she can inject some goodness.

Oh, I too enjoyed the musical episode. In case I wasn’t clear, I meant was the musical episode was placed AFTER a string of really depressing episodes to lighten the mood a bit, and I bet they’ll do the same with this one.

Fun, but when I first heard my mother utter the words “Jim Henson collaboration”, I was hoping it would be really cool practical effects alien creatures, though I guess Farscape already did that.

Who bets this will be placed after a new record for most depressing episode in the franchise like they did with the musical?

Honestly, Avery Brooks deserved more in general.

I looked at the episode in question, and it looks like his vein is just really big.

Yeh. It’s a very 2000s kid thing.

Has anyone else ever seen the resemblance:

Just watched this episode for the first time…

I think there’s a mistake with 71 down - you need to add a few spaces and change it to “FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE”.

As said on the Daystrom crosspost, the bartender is the first live action appearance of an Edosian, dirst introduced in TAS.

Also, I’m pretty sure this episode contains the first live action appearance of an Edosian, first introduced in TAS and appearing in ever animated Trek series since.

You’re right that the attempt wasn’t necessarily malicious. I feel it can be possible to have good intentions and still end up doing something wrong, whether that be sexist, racist, or otherwise hurtful.

Inaccurate cultural depictions can take away control of a people’s story and misrepresent them in such a way that distracts from the fact that they are a present-day people living their own everyday lives.

Of course, I think the failures in Chakotay’s character development that you mention are also very real and are a major factor in the failure of his character.

Overall, though, I still quite enjoy Voyager.