• Wilco@lemm.ee
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    Let’s cover polygamy and tax fraud. If you marry multiple people during the purge … does that mean the marriages are all legal?

    If you claim a $1,000,000 tax refund and mail it while the purge is going … is that legal?

    Most people would have way more on their mind than just murder.

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      I would say that once the purge ends you cannot be legally married to multiple people. Meanwhile if you murder someone they’re just dead. If you kidnap someone you’d have to let them go when it ends.

      Stealing is an interesting gray area. Is possessing a stolen object the crime, or is the stealing the crime? Or possibly both? If possessing a stolen object is illegal then you’d have to return them when it ends.

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        What if you shot someone during the purge, but they did not actually die until the next day.

        I’m thinking this whole “no laws” concept would actually need hundreds of thousands of laws. Courts would be tied up for years after each purge just trying to answer the legal questions regarding having no law.

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          I think of it more as the law looking away from any incidents on the day, and ignoring any lasting consequences after. Makes it neater.

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      Realistically, doesn’t randomly killing people harm capital, in so much as it would mean they must have more staff to cover the work of an unknown number of murdered employees afterwards, lose money spent training anyone that gets killed, and have a slightly smaller workforce available that also is more proficient at violence?

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        In theory yes, less employees means the value of labor goes up because of demand. This is what happened after the Black Death in Europe.

        In the wake of the drastic population decline brought on by the plague, wages shot up, and labourers could move to new localities in response to wage offers. Local and royal authorities in Western Europe instituted wage controls. The government controls sought to freeze wages at the old levels before the Black Death. Within England, for example, the Ordinance of Labourers, enacted in 1349, and the Statute of Labourers, enacted in 1351, restricted both wage increases and the relocation of workers.[30] If workers attempted to leave their current post, employers were given the right to have them imprisoned. The statute was poorly enforced in most areas, and farm wages in England on average doubled between 1350 and 1450,[31] but they were then static until the late 19th century.[32]

        Cohn, comparing numerous countries, argues that the laws were not designed primarily to freeze wages. Instead, he says that the energetic local and royal measures to control labour and artisans’ prices were responses to elite fears of the greed and the possible new powers of the lesser classes that had gained new freedom. Cohn continues that the laws reflected the anxiety that followed the Black Death’s new horrors of mass mortality and destruction and from elite anxiety about manifestations, such as the flagellant movement and the persecution of Jews, Catalans (in Sicily) and beggars.

        Of course nothing will stop the ruling class from fuckery.

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          Defund and criminalize reproductive education and healthcare to get that birth rate up and destroy families (can’t have desperate wrecked homes to make the army and overtime look good if too many people are allowed to choose skills and non-breeding family roles.) to get back to an extortibly unweildy population glut. easy peasy. Goes great with that scapegoating.

          This has been A Modest Proposal.(/s… aka that fuckery…)

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    Everything is legal, including:

    • falsifying a crime report or committing purjury
    • excessive force or police brutality
    • coerced confession
    • false arrest or imprisonment
    • evidence or witness tampering
    • unwarranted search and seizure or surveillance
  • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Stealing some real food, destroying anti-homeless architecture, sleeping in your own car, getting an abortion, same-sex marriage.

    Anyway, I doubt most people would get violent. Most people aren’t just held back by laws, but morality. People would probably just be trying all kinds of drugs mostly, racing, trespassing and breaking into places. What better time for exploring some abandoned buildings, or staff-only areas.
    You’d probably find me in a train depot, probably taking pictures and trying to figure out how to get one of the engines running. If that area wasn’t guarded of course.
    Alternatively, I’d probably steal a bus. Or a semi truck. Just temporarily. I don’t have a drivers license, but I want to try driving that.
    Hmm, I might take a bicycle to the airport. I doubt people would risk flying, and it would probably be the emptiest area for cycling.

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      I always assumed the Purges were set up by a far right government to legally kill anyone who tried to organise against them.

      Send goon squads (not the new ones) to smash up and kill coops, local farms, unions, uncooperative lawyers, journalists, etc.

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          Yes, folks can and do.

          But Hollywood likes to good wash the current status quo, so let’s ignore PayPal’s union busting and censorship policies, bombing civilians, systemic racism, and take it up to 11 in a fictional future.

          Or maybe I’m just jaded by the biggest fans of “purgey” settings being right wing folks.

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      Anyway, I doubt most people would get violent. Most people aren’t just held back by laws, but morality

      I’ll be honest here, mate, I think we’ve seen that a very large portion of the population would be more than happy to get violent. It’s mostly the ones who scream about laws needing to enforce morality on ‘the heathens.’

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    I’m gonna infringe on medical patents and pirate as much corpo medicine as I can in 12 hours

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    You won’t be charged with entering illegally, but staying illegally.

    You won’t be charged with the import, but for posession. Well I guess for exports, if you procure it and export it quickly and then delete/destroy it from your posessions, its fine. But import? Nah. Whoever end with its possession is fucked.

    And for export, they could just charge for the creation of it without approval, not the export itself.

    Piracy? Yea they’ll just prosecute for posession.

    Tax fraud? They’ll just shut down IRS for duration of the purge so you can’t even file it.

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      Possession of pirated material isn’t illegal. It’s the distribution that gets you. That’s why torrenting needs a VPN but streaming is perfectly legal (for the viewer)

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    Pirates Software

    Large Company To Police:

    They pirated it after the purge ended. If you don’t destroy their property, I’ll make sure you get fired and your life forfeit!

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        I would bet that a great many heads of ‘large companies’ would be targeted in the first purge. There’s no way that there isn’t some disgruntled employee or even an ex-employee that wouldn’t be willing to take a swing at the big guy before poverty comes in for the kill.

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    Luckily, I think the way that I conduct my life leaves me with very low odds for being on anyone’s kill list. I only have to worry about the murderous random killing.