• DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Why do people eat food they know isn’t good for their health? Why do people continue to buy products from companies that have proven to only sell bad products or engage in scumbag practices?

    They all have the same answer.

    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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      It turns out in 1961 the American heart Association took bribery money from procter and gamble, who owned and sold “healthier Crisco” cooking oils that weren’t high in saturated fat, like beef and other cooking oils were.

      The AHA then claimed and pushed that saturated fats caused heart disease.

      Problem is, something like 88% of every study done in the past 60 years has found little to no link between heart disease and saturated fats.

      So beef, according to most studies, isn’t bad for you. The AHA was just crooked and on the take, being paid off to sell Crisco.

      Now it is calorie dense and people tend to eat too much of it, but that seems to be a lot of things. Don’t eat too much or you get fat. But apparently, you don’t have to worry about saturated fats being bad for you.

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        1 year ago

        WHO report

        someone else online summarized the genetics part as the following:

        Mandelian randomisation studies show that LDL-c is causative in atherogenic plaques 1 and metabolic ward RCTs show that SFA intakes increase LDL-c, while the decrease in SFAs lead to lower total and LDL-c 2.

        But yes, almost all nutrition science is a bit inconclusive because of genetic variation.

        • Allemaniac@lemmy.world
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          not just genetics, wasnt there a tokyo study recently linking metabolism to the time of your conceiving? i.e. colder climates equals to slimmer people, whereas a hot climate is breeding grounds for obesity

      • EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        1 year ago

        Because I live in America and there’s pretty much no public transportation.

        Trust me, if I had a train, I’d fucking use that sucker. Travel into town for my weekly errands AND I don’t have to deal with people not using cruise control on a highway? SIGN ME THE FUCK. UP.

      • Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Some of us work multiple part time jobs to barely make it.

        I’d probably stay in the basement if I didn’t need to pay my landed lord their monthly tribute.

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          1 year ago

          buy some cheap sliver of land and park a bus on it. save up and find a better sliver of land and plan from there.

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    Each individual is facing the following choice in life:

    • sacrifice to save the planet, and fail
    • or not

    People want to immediately jump to “if everyone would just …”

    Nobody is looking at an “everyone does X” button. People only have their “I do X” button available.

    So that is literally the answer to your question. Very few people would sacrifice the civilization to eat a cheeseburger. But nobody has that choice or that power in their hands. Their choice is eat the cheeseburger or not, and the survival of civilization stays rigidly the same between those two choices.

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      Best response. Almost everyone alive has a net negative impact on the environment. Maybe that one Indian guy who planted a whole forest by himself gets a pass. We can try to be less negatively impactful depending on our inclinations, resources, and other interests and priorities. Some people may choose vegetarianism, some might buy an electric car or install some solar panels, some might organize politically for a new policy. Some might spend their altruism improving social conditions rather than focusing on the environment. But being ever so slightly less of a negative impact on the environment than your neighbour who has a slightly different set of priorities is hardly a reason to feel morally superior.

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      The bitter thing is: we could just implement the “Everyone does X” button. By creating according laws. But that doesn’t happen either. Because suddenly “I would do it, if everyone else did it too” turns out to be just an excuse.

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        Thanks to the economy tanking ( mass civil unrest -> crop uncertainty -> climate change ), voting is about fixing the economy

        Climate Change is not an attractive talking point

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    Cost. I mainly eat rice. But I’ll take meat when I can get it. Chicken, beef, mongolian wookie meat. Doesn’t matter. Humans are omnivorous. We require protein to function.

    I have made a pottage of carrots, potatoes, onions, and sweet potatoes today. It’s all about cost for me.

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    Because it tastes good and because people are so far removed from where their food comes from. Why eat vegetables that use illegal immigrants as workers and are treated harshly?

  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 year ago

    What a loaded question.

    Outside of the fact that a single cows life provides about 900 meals for humans, and the scraps left over make boots that last for a decade and also feed our cats and dogs. Plus, it’s delicious.

  • NeilBrü@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I eat beef (occasionally) due to its excellent flavor, versatility in cuisine, and high complex protein density.

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    4 months ago

    Why aren’t you living out in the woods eating nuts and berries? Whatever device you’re using to post this, it’s terrible for Earth!

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    1 year ago

    because not every country produce beef like you westerner. and not everyone eat beef everyday.

    go make your government ban beef like you ban palm oil if you really care about earth.

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      go make your government ban beef

      I would get them to end all subsidies for the beef industry if I could. Unfortunately I’m not in control of that, all I can do is bring up discussion, and I got you to comment, so I succeeded.

  • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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    1 the amount of beef I eat is not a major contributer to the problem. No matter how hard I try. The actual major contributors what to distract people by telling them that they can make the difference. They can’t. 2 I don’t like plants… 3 the way the grow plants for food is also terrible for earth

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      The major contributors only sell what people buy. They won’t stop so long as there’s money to be made. And most plants grown for food go to feed animals.

      You don’t like plants because you’re a big baby.

      So yeah, your arguments suck.

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    The real question is, why should we try to not eat beef for the environment, when corporations make 90% of all pollution in the world.

    Maybe focus on the 90% of the problem and not the individual people who but meat?

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      No corporation pollutes except to produce goods or services for human consumption, or for other businesses that provide goods or services for human consumption.

      Every gallon of gas burned is to power a vehicle to move you, or the goods you purchase.

      Every natural gas line leads to a house, of a business that sells things to houses.

      Theres no such thing as a corporation without consumers, we are where the buck is created, and where the buck stops.