I want to know why I’m wrong- because this question has been eating at me for years- and I secretly blame the Democrats for all of the health insurance problems.

Why can’t California and New York bind together in an interstate compact, and create medicare for all of their citizens?

California and New York have GDP’s above most other countries in the world. In general, democrats hold majorities. Tell me why I shouldn’t blame the democrats for:

  1. Doing Obama care half assed, when something like 80% people wanted a public option.

  2. Not just doing it themselves. For instance even NYC by itself has a GDP above Denmark, and NYC is filled to the brim with the super rich.

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    New York State Medicaid is basically that, if you make under $28,000 a year or something like that. I was on it for a while. It’s good. everything is free.

    The only problem is that not every provider accepts it. But most in the city do.

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      I hate those arbitrary cut offs for aid. Oops, you got a raise and now make $28,100 sorry no more medicare. It locks people into low paying jobs because if they make too much, they instantly loose all the benefits that their little raise doesn’t match.

      if we’re not going to do free-for-all, it should at least be on a very large scale,

      make less then 28k = 100% covered,

      29, 99% covered

      30, 98% covered

      All the way up to when 128k = 0% covered

      (You’d have fix healthcare prices too, procedures/medicines are priced so insurance looks like they are doing you a favor “you only had to pay $700 for this $25,000 procedure and the $600 follow up medicine will only cost you $100 a week”)

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    California and New York have GDP’s above most other countries in the world.

    But Cali and New York do not reap the tax revenue of a country with the GDP of their size; they can only reap part of it, both because Federal taxes remove a portion of that taxable income, and because states are necessarily more limited in their options for taxation than national governments.

    It’s possible, don’t get me wrong, but significantly more difficult.

    Tell me why I shouldn’t blame the democrats for:

    Doing Obama care half assed, when something like 80% people wanted a public option.

    Bruh, do you not remember how Obamacare was passed?

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      As far as the first part of your response: Hmm, that’s interesting.

      As far as the, “Bruh, do you not remember…”

      Yes, I remember how Obamacare was passed.

      Do you you remember how it seemed like a public option should pass- it had a ton of support- people were rallying behind it.

      And then DroopyDog Senator Lieberman had that touted “meeting with Obama” and the public option was scuttled.

      From the moment that happened, I thought, “Lieberman’s the fall guy. The democrats don’t want the public option, and Obama isn’t any different from everyone else before him.” (think Flint, think Guantanamo, think Bank bailouts, think Bank Bailouts again). If Obama had wanted it, he could have done it. I mean, look at Trump. He didn’t.

      At the time I was furious with Lieberman and Obama- now, just Obama.

      https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-dec-15-la-naw-health-senate16-2009dec16-story.html

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          Yeah.

          I also think he could have closed Guantanamo.

          And I even think he could have bailed out the people that lost their houses and not the people that owned (banks, through predatory loans) the houses.

          I still think he should have nationalized the banks that failed and renamed them to “Bank A” and “Bank B.” But no, no consequences for the rich under Obama just like everyone else.

          Crazy huh.

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            I also think he could have closed Guantanamo.

            Apparently you don’t remember how that went either.

            And I even think he could have bailed out the people that lost their houses and not the people that owned the houses.

            Oh, sure, just pass an executive order for it, right?

            I still think he should have nationalized the banks that failed and renamed them to “Bank A” and “Bank B.”

            Jesus Christ man.

            Crazy huh.

            In desire, no; in perceptions of what the president has the power to do, yes.