• Anomalocaris@lemm.ee
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    every rational part of my brain fighting the 7 year old me inside me who knows Bagger 288 is the coolest thing ever

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    This is very real and has been an issue for years. I remember when I was younger, watching public TV, and I saw a news report about an elderly lady who was forced to sell her home along with the rest of her village so that they could dig up the entire area for coal. At the time it was a big deal, because she took so long to agree, which got media attention. It was incredibly depressing. It felt dystopian.

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    We make logging companies “replant forests” (yes it’s not at all the same as the old growth but it’s something). Why do we let mining companies completely rape the land and replace nothing? It doesn’t even look like they backfill with the unused debris, much less restore topsoil or plant anything.

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      Where I live they are required to rehabilitate the land afterwards, but usually that’s after the mine has been running for like 30+ years and by the time they shut down, they do some weird financial trickery and declare bankruptcy despite having made millions in profits the previous decades and then they just walk away and tax payers need to clean up.

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      Why do we let mining companies completely rape the land and replace nothing?

      The government spend billions to brainwash people and turn them complicit. Check out the “germany rearming” threads to see how even on lemmy plenty of people are happy with the raping.

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      Tbh there is a lot done do make the Land usable once the mining process is through

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        And not nearly enough because no human activity can realistically cover some 100-200 million years of geological processes.

        In most places they just want to flood the hole. These artificial lakes then become a toxic hole because the Iron-Sulfide exposed during mining oxidizes into Iron-Sulfate, leading to these lakes being diluted Sulphuric Acid for decades if not centuries.

        Also the groundwater cannot recover a century of pumping it out in less than multiple centuries. Then the water used for flooding is diverted from rivers, which already are running low in these region and the artificial lakes are evaporating a lot of water, further drying things out.

        Oh and of course the holes tend to be sold to some smaller private investors by the end of their lifetime who do not have nearly enough funds to be held liable for renaturization. So the tax payers will be looking at dozens if not hundreds of billions of damages to front over the next centuries while the profiteers moved their money elsewhere.

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      It will be turned into a giant lake once they are done mining. You burn a lot of volume and filling it wil soil again is just not possible

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      Well, not 100% on this, but maybe because we’re an overaged society that elects corrupt politicians rather than accept that change in lifestyle is necessary? Or maybe it is the brainwashing of the Springer-press that continues to vilify the Greens. Maybe a mix of both.

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        Or maybe it is the brainwashing of the Springer-press that continues to vilify the Greens

        The German greens are the greatest insult to ecology and progressivism in the history of Earth. Born out of the antinuclear movement and immediately coopted by fossil fuel lobbies, the only thing they’ve done is to encourage MORE coal plants to be opened (due to pushing for the closure of nuclear plants), and supported every single neoliberal anti-welfare budget and every military intervention (think bombing of Yugoslavia, bombing of Libya, invasion of Iraq). They’re seriously one of the worst parties in the EU.

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          Remind me again, who ordered the nuclear plants to be closed, and who prolonged their runtimes? Who came up with Agenda 2010 and who blocked Bürgergeld being more than a name change?

          And if they are one of the worst parties of the EU, I envy your selective reading. We have parties more or less openly advocating for fascism. “SocDems but with a green coat of paint” don’t even make the top ten.

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          This account is a known pro-russia anti-liberal troll.

          Don’t feed it. plonk

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      They do backfill, but they obviously lose quite a bit of volume in the process, so they cannot completely fill the hole. The remaining part is usually flooded.

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      Here in the UK I know of lots of old mines and quarries that, because the ground is inherently unstable once the mining has finished, the land gets reclaimed as a nature reserve. Think nice walks, wildflowers, native trees, marshlands etc. A lot of effort goes into making habitats for insects, birds and animals.

      Whether or not it is all paid for by the mining companies, I don’t know.

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        Underground mining and strip mining are very different in the possibilities to recover.

        Both underground mining and strip mining will devastate natural and urban areas in Germany for centuries. For the former black coal and iron mining areas they basically have no solution except to keep the pumps running indefinitely as the flooded underground mines would collapse, causing sinkholes and eating the houses on top. For the strip mining, these will be scars on the earth until geology has taken care of it in a few million years.

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        That’s how we do it here in the US if they’re operating near an urban area. My understanding is that they are required by law to do that in exchange for the permits or something.

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          Only if the city cares. I’m in a capital city where strip mining occurs within city limits, and they just leave acid pools behind because the thick forests keep people from noticing it

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    Uhm no bagger-288 was created to protect mankind from godzillas and doom robots from the future.

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    Being destroyed by a giant machine is terrible but it did file the proper paperwork first so what can be done at this point?