the drain can have little a grease, as a treat

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    It’s not about keeping grease out of the drain, it’s about not wasting cooking oil. As a Brit I recommend frying your whole breakfast in bacon dripping. Especially the mushrooms and tomatoes.

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    So around Friday of last week, my ground level apartment started to have a weird, foul, smell. It got worse and worse, until Monday morning, when my toilet stopped flushing and the drains took forever to clear.

    By then the smell was horrid, like a mixture of skunk, piss, and decay. Thankfully for me, my toilet suddenly started working for a couple of hours Monday night, but then stopped working by Tuesday morning. Around 3pm on Tuesday, they finished repairing the sewage pipe, but the smell lingers on.

    This also happened maybe 6-8 months ago, and it took 7-10 days for the smell to finally dissipate. I expect it will take that long this time as well.

    Judging by the notice left on all of our doors, that threatened to charge the person or persons responsible for flushing “flushable” wipes and cigarette butts (???) as well as dumping oil down the drain, our sewage pipe must have been completely blocked up. Without inspecting each unit, I doubt they will be able to assign blame, so whoever did it will likely get away with it.

    I have nothing to worry about, as I never pour oil down the drain, I don’t smoke cigarettes, and I only ever use toilet paper in the bathroom. Whoever invented “flushable” wipes deserve a punch in the fucking face. Now my apartment smells absolutely terrible, and likely will continue to do so for a week or so.

    For the love of god, do not dump oil down the drain! It’s so easy to pour it into a jar, then use a paper towel to wipe the rest of the oil out of the pot/pan. It makes actually cleaning the cookware that much easier as well.

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      Counterpoint: if you rent, put everything down the drain you can. Stop taking your garbage out, just blend it and down the drain it goes. Everything goes down the drain. It’s like a magic hole that erases all of your sins!!

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    Only poor it down the drain if you rent! Never when you own!

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    You shouldn’t pour it down the drain for obvious reasons but putting it in a jar is weird af. Is there some actual reason for the jar that I don’t know? Whenever I have to do the dishes and there is a lot of grease in a pan I just put a few papertowels (if needed) in the trash and pour the grease in there. When I’m done with the dishes I take the trash out.

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      Depends on how much grease you have— always stored bacon grease in glass jars to use later for greasing pans and given bacony flavor. Secondly, grease pours easily and is liquid when hot, but because it’s hot you can’t pour it into the trash, or wipe it clean with paper towels as mentioned. You have to let it cool which means it becomes more of a mess.

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    Pretty easy to sidestep this issue by just not eating heart-clogging foods. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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            It’s a little weird that anyone still thinks a joke that was overdone 30 years ago, would do anything other than make you sound unhinged today. “Tell me not to do a thing that causes suffering, will you? Well what if I cause even more suffering then?!”

            I dunno, cartoon villain isn’t a good look in real life.

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              They are allowed to joke about that because your comment is equally as overdone and unhinged.

              As if you don’t have plant based grease.

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                I don’t have plant-based grease, because I don’t eat foods high in saturated fats plant-based or not, and I almost never cook with oil (except for rare occasions like the popcorn with olive oil I had last night).

                What exactly is unhinged and overdone about my comments?

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                He isn’t wrong about me being unhinged, he is wrong though about it not being a good look.

                Also I bought a pack of bacon from Costco for $21 I broke it down and ended up with enough bacon to last a month, i could care less about saving a pig or myself but fuck I’ll save the money.

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          Oddly enough, this “clogged heart” “fact” is slowly being debunked by individual groups of scientists who are not sponsored by any food, tobacco or pharma industry.

          I might have the urge to look for this paper I read about 2 years ago. Long story short: the unsaturated fats bind with sugar to form the small cholesterol molecules that can lead to blockages, while saturated fats form large cholesterol molecules that are used as a means of transport on the blood.

          But nevertheless more research has to be done.

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            No, it is not being debunked. People are just being fooled by the constant onslaught of industry-backed disinformation. The role of high saturated fat to unsaturated fat intake on cardiovascular disease is one of the most thoroughly tested areas of nutritional health, and the consensus from real experts is that saturated fat intake absolutely progresses cvd.

            https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-eating/eat-smart/fats/saturated-fats

            "There’s a lot of conflicting information about saturated fats. Should I eat them or not?

            The American Heart Association recommends limiting saturated fats to less than 6% of total calories. Saturated fats are found in butter, cheese, red meat, other animal-based foods and tropical oils. Decades science has proven that saturated fats can raise your “bad” cholesterol and put you at higher risk for heart disease.

            The more important thing to remember is the overall dietary pattern. Saturated fats are just one piece of the puzzle. Eating more fruits, vegetables and whole grains is a way to achieve an overall healthy eating pattern.

            When you hear about the latest “diet of the day” or a new or odd-sounding theory about food, consider the source. The American Heart Association makes dietary recommendations only after carefully considering the latest scientific evidence."

            https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/the-truth-about-fats-bad-and-good

            (…) “Is saturated fat bad for you? A diet rich in saturated fats can drive up total cholesterol, and tip the balance toward more harmful LDL cholesterol, which prompts blockages to form in arteries in the heart and elsewhere in the body. For that reason, most nutrition experts recommend limiting saturated fat to under 10% of calories a day.”

            (…) “Eating polyunsaturated fats in place of saturated fats or highly refined carbohydrates reduces harmful LDL cholesterol and improves the cholesterol profile. It also lowers triglycerides.”

            And I’m choosing to focus on meta-analyses here to highlight the sheer volume of studies that have, and continue to be done on this subject.

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39523824/

            “Results: Fourteen studies were included in the systematic review and seven in the meta-analysis. Our results showed an association between OO consumption and reduction in all-cause mortality (HR: 0.85; 95% CI: 0.80-0.91), cardiovascular mortality (HR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.76-0.93) and cancer mortality (HR: 0.89; 95% CI: 0.86-0.93). Conclusions: Consumption of OO particularly reduces cardiovascular mortality (16%), followed by all-cause mortality (15%) and cancer mortality (11%) in the adult population. However, further studies are needed to clarify the underlying mechanisms.”

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30006369/

            “Fifty-four trials were included in the NMA. Safflower oil had the highest SUCRA value for LDL-C (82%) and TC (90%), followed by rapeseed oil (76% for LDL-C, 85% for TC); whereas, palm oil (74%) had the highest SUCRA value for TG, and coconut oil (88%) for HDL-C. Safflower, sunflower, rapeseed, flaxseed, corn, olive, soybean, palm, and coconut oil as well beef fat were more effective in reducing LDL-C (-0.42 to -0.23 mmol/l) as compared with butter. Despite limitations in these data, our NMA findings are in line with existing evidence on the metabolic effects of fat and support current recommendations to replace high saturated-fat food with unsaturated oils.”

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27434027/

            “This meta-analysis of randomised controlled feeding trials provides evidence that dietary macronutrients have diverse effects on glucose-insulin homeostasis. In comparison to carbohydrate, SFA, or MUFA, most consistent favourable effects were seen with PUFA, which was linked to improved glycaemia, insulin resistance, and insulin secretion capacity.”

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35866510/

            “The results of this review suggest that CO consumptionhas beneficial effects on LDL-c, TC, and LDL-c/HDL-c ratio compared to OO. Therefore, its replacement with OO can have cardioprotective impacts.”

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37968628/

            “Our findings indicate that a shift from animal-based (e.g., red and processed meat, eggs, dairy, poultry, butter) to plant-based (e.g., nuts, legumes, whole grains, olive oil) foods is beneficially associated with cardiometabolic health and all-cause mortality.”

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36343558/

            “Prospective studies supported a beneficial association of olive oil consumption with CVD, T2D and all-cause mortality, but they did not show any association with cancer risk.”

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32428300/

            “The findings of this updated review suggest that reducing saturated fat intake for at least two years causes a potentially important reduction in combined cardiovascular events. Replacing the energy from saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat or carbohydrate appear to be useful strategies, while effects of replacement with monounsaturated fat are unclear. The reduction in combined cardiovascular events resulting from reducing saturated fat did not alter by study duration, sex or baseline level of cardiovascular risk, but greater reduction in saturated fat caused greater reductions in cardiovascular events.”

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25995283/

            “Palm oil consumption results in higher LDL cholesterol than do vegetable oils low in saturated fat and higher HDL cholesterol than do trans fat-containing oils in humans. The effects of palm oil on blood lipids are as expected on the basis of its high saturated fat content, which supports the reduction in palm oil use by replacement with vegetable oils low in saturated and trans fat.”

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    Just add oil solidifier so you can throw the solidified oil into the compost or trash bin. Like FryAway or just buy the original Japanese versions which FryAway is a copy of like Katameru Tempuru

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    Honestly never heard of that, but I’m also a bit lost in translation. Does this have any relevance to a person that only uses olive and sunflower oil and doesn’t eat any meat?

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      Öl will solidify as well, even if it takes a lower temperature than meat drippings. Use a paper towel to soak up leftover oil and dispose of it in the Restmüll.

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      Fatty meat will result in a lot of grease that if poured down the sink will solidify on the walls of your drain pipes.

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        But if it is only that, a few paper towels should be enough to catch the grease.

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    Don’t pour hot grease in a glass jar or it’ll shatter and spill hot grease all over your counter and then when you grab a flimsy piece of plastic from the recycling and try to push it on to stop the spill and the plastic collapses and hot grease goes all over your forearm and gives you 2nd degree burns and your floor is covered in broken glass you will regret it.

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      Get frozen orange juice and save the cardboard tube to hold the grease while it congeals.

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      I use a Pyrex container if I want to safe the grease. Otherwise I make a bowl of aluminum foil, pour it into that, and toss it once it hardens.

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      That’s why I pour it into the jar in the sink.

      That and I’m really messy and the sink is the easiest place to clean up spilled grease.

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      Eh, a small mason jar is tough enough to handle a few tablespoons of bacon grease or whatever without shattering. But sure, if you’ve got a lot of grease at once, let it cool down first (or better yet, refrigerate the pot roast or whatever it is you’ve made, so that you can just pull the grease off the top of the pot in one hardened puck).

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      I’ve been pouring hot grease in glass jars for decades without having one shatter. You’re severely overestimating the risks

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        I have had this happen once. Cold jar, didnt let the grease cool enough… was my bad. Same as if you’re going to put it into a metal can while its still really hot, make sure the can isnt sitting on something that will melt.

        I think the best advice is “Dont pour the grease while its still hot enough to burn you”

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        It depends on where you’re from, glass jars/drinking glasses in Germany don’t shatter from thermal shock, but they do in the US.

        I reflexively yelled at my boss once because he poured recently boiling water out of a glass and turned the cold faucet on to rinse it out while scrubbing, and I thought he was about to cut the shit out of his hand. He got contemplative for a moment and then said that he had forgotten that that used to happen in Afghanistan (where he was from), but it doesn’t happen in Germany.

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          Just putting oil in a few dozen times won’t shatter it. A few hundred cooling cycles might, but you change jars by then.

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            It won’t necessarily shatter it, but it absolutely can. I’ve done it with a jar I had washed the original product out of shortly beforehand. Just because it’s never happened to you doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

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      I’m not blowing smoke here … that’s great writing. It works well if you imagine voice growing frantic and speaking faster as it goes.

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    I can’t tell if people here are pouring their grease down the drain.

    The answer is don’t. “It will be fine” for the person who told you that it will be fine, but it will absolutely fail for you. You know that by now. Also that guy is lying and already had to snake his drain but won’t tell you that.

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        If housing as an investment has created a circumstance where young people can no longer afford homes then it’s in those young peoples best interest to sour the investment class.

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      I briefly worked for a plumber during my college days to make money. He said the people who kept him in business were people who poured grease down the drain and also people who flushed tampons.

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        People who pour grease down the drain have definitely never unclogged a drain before.

        Usually something like half fibers (hair, tampons, “flushable” wipes, etc), half grease and fats.

        If it’s a solid at room temp, it probably shouldn’t go down the drain.

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            Nope. Nothing oily that doesn’t rinse away completely with water. Most people forget butter and peanut butter, too.

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                  Why do you keep focusing on “water”? I don’t get what you’re getting at. You don’t wash dishes with just water. Water is a very small and inconsequential component of the process.

                  You wash dishes by squeezing some dishwashing liquid on a dishwashing sponge, then pour hot water onto the dish being cleaned and leave it on as you clean, then you scrub the dish clean with the sponge while water flows over washing away what’s left.

                  Then when there are no longer any visible stains on the dishes in question, the dishes are considered clean and you put them on a drying rack and/or pat them down with a towel to ensure dryness.

                  All i see going into the sink during this process is soapy water. I’ve no idea what is or isn’t “grease” of that liquid. It’s all just food waste. It disappears away into nothingness, as it should.

                  Why it could cause any issues all of a sudden when it never has and the only place people have ever mentioned it or claimed to do it is on the internet.

                  Ig it’s like one of those “put an iPhone in a microwave” trolling things to get people to keep jars of dirt/trash/food waste and spread insects and/or disease?

                  Edit: Downvoted because you’re upset at the mention of dishes?

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            I’m pretty sure the risk is lower, but you probably still shouldn’t. I think the problem is that anything fatty/oily can emulsify with other things that get poured down the drain and potentially thicken into a blockage even if they weren’t in that state when you poured them down

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      Keep it in a mug by the sink

      Every time the mug fills up, dump it into a pot of very hot water, give it a stir, pour it into a mason jar, seal it tightly, and put it in the fridge upside down.

      When it’s cold, dump out the water, scrape the thin top layer of crap off, and voila, you have perfectly usable high smoke point salted lard for frying.

      If you fry fresh pork belly, save that fat separately, do the same thing, and you have pure lard.

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      You don’t have Plumbo or equivalent? it destroys all organic matter it touches. Fatbergs, human hair, small rodents, I’ve never paid anymore to clear anything.

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      Cost us over $200 to get a plumber to fix the drain when my partner decided to feed an entire jar of whole pickles into the garbage disposal.

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      Obligatory response to this meme e’er time, “Sigh, if it’s on septic its massively expensive infrastructure the tenant will be held liable for 10/10 times, and will only render one less living space habitable. And if it’s on sewer it’s punishing the public’s wastewater treatment facility.”

      Aand resume.

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        If it’s septic it’s whatever. Bigger issue if it’s not, then tax dollars are required to fix it, and it’s just wrecking infrastructure

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          Infrastructure that was torn from public control and privatised, ruined, and now begging for more tax money to fund their bonuses, you say?

          Delightfully devilish!

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              There’s not really “public” per se.

              It’ll be handled by a private contractor owned by private equity that specializes in leeching taxpayer dollars same as everything. The tender will be won by those who can promise the local govt officials the best jobs at said private contractor or sister/parent company after their term.

              Even if by some miracle the city/municipality has its own teams for this work, they’ll be nickel and dimed by checkbox ticking legislation that exists as breeding ground for middlemen consultants who will suck away taxpayer dollars.

              That is until some “budget hawk” type consultancy is brought in by some bigger fish whether it’s the city or the state or the fed or the fucking IMF if you’re Greece and force privatisation in the name of efficiency.

              This will lead to a collapse of the service quality, collapse of living standards and a declining trust in institutions, leading to a far-right takeover because in the end - most people are monsters.

              Or something like that I imagine. I used to work for the NHS in the UK. The owner of the trust “convinced” the procurement to allow the company to make a “surplus”. He drove a Porsche and looked like a 90s movie villain.

              So yes, pour that shit. And don’t feel bad - the ghouls wouldn’t, and we’re all just human after all.

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      The plummer cost will most likely be for you if it clogs the drain, otherwise you have a pretty good landlord.