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    Again, why aren’t there metal detectors at the entrances to MRI machines everywhere? For the cost of those machines, the cost of a metal detector is peanuts

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      not at all practical. a big ol buzzer would have prevented this maybe, but really it’s the relaxed culture around the MRI that let it happen. people need to be told either you don’t go past the big heavy door with the NO METALS sign, or you get all the metal off you now, or both.

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      A - standard metal detectors probably won’t work well right at the MRI room door. Some facilities may have a longer hallway for access and putting one there, far from the actual MRI suite, would make a lot of sense (I think I visited one location that had that layout), but not all facilities are laid out in a way that that could work.

      B - the nature of how a metal detector works would probably have negative impacts on MRI image quality if it is too close to the imager - even outside the shield room door.

      I did a sort of tour of a couple dozen MRI facilities for a couple of years, the stronger ones all have radio-frequency shield rooms complete with metal / gasketed doors that are supposed to be closed during imaging. Actual practice regarding keeping those doors closed was pretty loose in the places / times I was visiting. And, in the article’s case it sounds like imaging wasn’t in progress so the door was probably standing open…

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    The man, 61, had entered the MRI room while a scan was underway

    How was that allowed?

    he asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table.

    …while the machine was still working? And isn’t that the job of the technician anyway?

    the technician helped her try to pull her husband off the machine but it was impossible.

    Those machines have a kill-switch for a reason.

    I call this BS or a very incompetent technician.
    Plus a Darwin award for the guy.

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      The kill switch is VERY expensive to press, many thousands of dollars, and even when it does an “instant” magnet quench, by the time you hear the screams it’s all over anyway, the metal has landed on the magnet. Quenching the magnet will make it let go, but it won’t unbreak the neck bones.

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      Couple things:

      The magnet is ALWAYS on.

      The “kill switch” takes about five minutes to actually deactivate the magnet and it costs about thirty grand in helium every time you push it.

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        Isn’t it an electomagnet?

        it costs about thirty grand in helium every time you push it.

        Oh, right, i forgot human lives have a price in the US.

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          It’s a super conducting electromagnet, and if you quench it instantly pieces would be flying all over the room

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          The US is an outlier in how it charges prices for healthcare services.

          But every country in the world has prices charged for cold liquid helium. It’s very expensive to gather, process, store, and ship, regardless of what kind of health care economics apply in your country.

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            Not just the helium, there’s a considerable time spent “recharging” the magnet with electricity - many patients will lose access to MRI scan service during the multiple days it is down for recharge.

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              Dont they loose the access to the machine anyway for few day? Im under impression metal slamming to the machine usually breaks it pretty good.

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          Depends on the machine type. Closed bore machines (the vast majority) use supercunducting electromagnets that are surrounded by liquid helium that creates a very strong magnetic field. To demagnetize them requires dumping the helium.

          Some open bore machines use electromagnets, but they’re much less common and not as powerful.

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              the helium is liquid, which it only is when it is very very cold.
              The superconductor will keep it’s magnetic field forever, as long as it’s superconducting, and it will stay superconducting while it is very very cold.

              There is physically no way (as in, it is simply impossible, due to how our world works, not money, not people, not technology) to instantly “switch off” the magnet.

              it needs to go above a certain temperature, to lose it’s superconducting nature, and it needs to do it at a pace that doesn’t dump a GINORMOUS amount of energy in this magnetic field instantly, because that would be even worse.

              the fault here is in allowing anyone with any magnetic metal anywhere near an MRI. And whoever let that happen is going to have a very bad week.

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              No, the liquid helium cools the magnets to the point where they become superconductive. As to how that works exactly, I do not know. I don’t think I have the math for it.

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          I’m sure he was barely trained and had specific instructions to “never push that button!” When you whole life in the country is tied to your employment, it’s every moron for themselves.

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          It’s not an electromagnet, it’s a superconducting magnet. And turning it immediately off makes it melt.

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            It’s both! MRI magnets are electromagnets that are cooled down to 4 Kelvin using liquid helium. Once they reach those low temperatures, they become superconducting. This way, the magnet isn’t gobbling up tons of electricity to stay at the desired field strength. Instead, the liquid helium needs to be replenished occasionally to keep it at superconducting temperature. Source: I work with MRI scanners.

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        Not to mention it’s not renewable. Once it his the upper atmosphere, you can’t get it back.

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    Surely 9kg necklace isn’t something you can just sneak around with, how was he allowed to get close enough to an MRI machine in the first place wearing it?

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      Because hospital staff have better things to do than baby sit every person that walks in? They are pretty well known for always being overworked already.

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      I would need an entourage of physiotherapists if I had the bling to roll with a 9kg necklace.

      Imagine how dope my rhymes would be though. A man can dream…

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      Hospitals aren’t jails or high security government facilities. I could walk around a hospital right now and walk into an MRI room and nobody would physically stop me. I used to work in a hospital and we had a long meeting about signs, because a cleaner didn’t look at the door sign and walked into an MRI room with a metal floor buffer.

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    Did no one else read the story? I read it and it sounds moreso the clinic’s fault

    The necklace he was wearing was a steel weighted exercise band, not a normal necklace. He’s not flexing his wealth or anything

    His wife told News 12 Long Island in a recorded interview that she was undergoing an MRI on her knee when she asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table. She said she called out to him.

    Seems like the technician was told by the wife to bring her husband in to help her up. The technician/clinic made a mistake by letting in the husband, who didn’t seem properly warned about MRIs no metal policy. The technician also somehow didn’t catch the giant “necklace” he’d be wearing.

    The “he wasn’t supposed to be there” seems like a coverup for their mistake, since how else would he have known to go in? Someone must’ve told him to walk into the room, it’s not like he could hear through the door.

    Edit: 100% the technicians fault, the technician saw it. It even had a metal padlock.

    They’d even discussed his training and the hard-to-miss chain with the MRI technician during their previous appointments, Jones-McAllister said.
    “That was not the first time that guy has seen that chain” on her husband, she said. “They had a conversation about it before.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/long-island-man-killed-in-freak-mri-accident-was-wearing-20-pound-chain-necklace-with-padlock/ar-AA1IXop6

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      Thank the gods for you. I was reading these comments thinking I was insane.

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      Why even wear the stupid necklace when going to the MRI in the first place? Like, how thoughtless and selfish can you be? Always assume you are surrounded by barely-functional morons, especially in the medical field which seems to attract these types of people, and think defensively.

      “Geez, I’m going to be near an MRI machine, maybe I’ll wear a 20 pound piece of steel around my neck? Genius! Let’s do it!”

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        That’s an extremely privileged take. Not everyone knows about what an MRI does. Don’t just judge someone’s education and circumstance like that.

        Common sense is that a person should be able to trust the medical professional. If the professional doesn’t properly warn them, how would they know?

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          It’s in almost every medical drama. It’s also explained to you by the personnel.

          Privileged is walking around with 20 pounds of shit strapped around your neck and expecting the world to yield to you.

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            Again you make an assumption that people should automatically know about an MRI. I’m privileged enough to know because I love watching medical video essays and have the free time and access to do so. Not everyone has access to the same resources as you and I. Some people didn’t have the opportunity to go to college. Some people had no easy access to the internet when growing up. Some people don’t have time because they’re working 3 jobs to survive.

            I’m not going to insult someone because they don’t know about x thing, because education is meant to be for helping others, not belittling anyone you meet just because you know more than them. Your first instinct shouldn’t be to ridicule a deceased person for not knowing as much as you.

            Put into example it’s for a newfound medical examination that both you and I have no knowledge about. You trust the professional treating you that they know what they’re doing. A clinic isn’t going to assume you know every little detail about this. That’s the job of the clinic and their technician.

            You also conveniently ignore that the technician was with the said person when he entered the room, aka he trusted the technician that he wasn’t doing something wrong. It’s not a case of he’s not allowed to be there and just so happened to trespass in with metal. He TRUSTED the professional here that he was allowed in and that there wouldn’t be any issues. The technician failed by not making sure he didn’t have anything metal. They should’ve thoroughly checked and even double checked before letting him in.

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              Knowledge about how many things work in the society you live in isn’t privilege, it’s fucking common sense.

              Also, walking around with a 20 pound fucking necklace is stupid, and especially so if you’re doing something else at the time.

              “He TRUSTED the professional”

              Do you just give gas when the light turns green?

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                You should probably reread the articles if you still think it’s an actual necklace and not a weighted exercise tool.

                I’m not gonna continue with this since you think trusting a professional is equivalent to trusting a stoplight

    • I’m not saying it’s the husband’s fault, but I don’t think it’s 100% on the technician either.

      I read it more like she asked the technician to get her husband and called out to her husband who presumably just walked in.

      Also, “they discussed the chain on a previous visit” doesn’t really change anything. Depending on how many people that technician sees and when that last visit was, they might’ve just forgotten.

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        When McAllister entered the exam room with the technician, the machine suddenly “switched him around, and pulled him in,” Jones-McAllister said.

        This was part of the other article I linked. It’s a lot of “they said she said” but I’m gonna put more faith in the victim’s word and not the clinic’s.

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    What kind of hospital let him get near the room with that kind of metal around his neck? I’ve had to be in several hospitals recently for different imaging issues and every time the MRI is a thing I have to remove everything metal to go past a certain door (escorting my daughter and son for medical reasons). I don’t know who let him anywhere near the room with something that large.

    Edit for Clarity: I’ve had to be the one removing all metal even though I’m not the one being scanned. For me to progress beyond a certain part of the hospital toward the MRI I needed to get rid of everything. My children were being scanned, not me. So, I’m not sure what hospital system allowed this man with a 9kg chain get this far deep into the imaging area.

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      He wasn’t supposed to be in the room. There was a scan in progress when he entered.

      Seems to me all they needed was a magnet of equal or greater strength placed opposite of, and perhaps a bit closer to the doorway, to pull intruders away from the MRI room.

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        His wife told News 12 Long Island in a recorded interview that she was undergoing an MRI on her knee when she asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table. She said she called out to him.

        Whole thing is heart breaking all around. I feel for the technician who made an honest but very serious mistake. And I’m sure the wife will spend her days regretting asking for help. Just a fucking tragic situation. :/

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          the technician who made an honest but very serious mistake.

          You mean letting someone in while the machine was in operation?

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        all they needed was a magnet of equal or greater strength

        MRI magnets are electromagnets that are supercooled with liquid helium and take hours to start or stop because of the electrical energy that has to be put in or taken out.

        So just having a magnet of equal strengh for idiot defense would be a very significant waste of electricity and helium unfortunately

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          take hours to start or stop

          You mean they’re in constant operation the whole shift?
          Surely dialed way down in between scans?

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            The dectector and the variable field (that induces the localized measurable changes) stop between scans, but the static magnetic field is kept up.

            As long as you keep up the superconductitvity there is basically no electrical loss in the coils. Dialing the magnetic field down would require pulling out the energy, and reinjecting new energy to get the field back up. That’s the slow part, because injecting current quickly would heat the coil above superconductivity, leading to a quench.

            I’m not sure how energy is withdrawn in the ordinary shutdown procedure, but I expect it is exchanged into heat and vented to the outside air in some way, rather than reinjected into the grid in a usable form. (The latter would require an inverter to turn the DC back into AC synchronized to the grid, probably would increase complexity by too much). So I suspect it would be wasteful too.

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          Idk bc some of the articles seem to be contradicting but apparently the door had a lock and the deck opened it

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      One and only one headstone that includes a mention of a big ass magnet as the cause of death in rap format.

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    Dude was wearing a 20lb chain while his wife was getting an MRI.

    She freaked, and yelled for him, and he ran into the room while the machine was still on and fucking died.

    This is 100% their fault, I could almost see an argument that the door needs a lock to prevent idiots with 20l s of metal around their neck from running in, but you don’t want to lock everyone out in case there’s an issue.

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      There is a lot of conflicting information in the articles im finding about this incident, from her shouting and him running in to him entering the room with the technician, and the technician knew about the chain and had commented on it.

      Lmk if you need some examples, but theres a lot.

      Im (cynically) inclined to believe that the hospital were the first to give statements and did a quick its-not-our-fault response. Then more people were interviewed. Ill always side with the working class (imo everyone who is not ruling class) rather than the corporations. And in the US the hospital is a corporation for sure.

      There’s some gross racial spin surrounding this too, see pic below. It was a weighted padlock steel necklace for his weight training, not whatever is implied by yahoo.

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      You could put an airlock like metal detector door that only opens the second door, if the first door is closed and there’s nothing magnetic inside. People could still go in quickly in emergencies, but nothing that makes it worse can enter.

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        You could spend billions to implement crazy solutions for every possible scenario.

        Or you could just tell the guy not to go in there.

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          That would not cost billions. Not even close. It would certainly be far cheaper than the cost of repair.

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            Did you forget that thousands of hospitals exist just in the US? Or at least did before 2025.

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              Not all of them have MRI machines, and regardless of its cheaper than repairing them.

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                Hundreds probably do though. I don’t know. I’ve never heard of anything like this happening. I think it’s probably exceedingly rare. I had an MRI and the number of times I heard and read the warnings about metal was exhausting. It feels almost impossible that someone could not know about that specific danger.

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            That would not cost billions. Not even close. It would certainly be far cheaper than the cost of repair.

            “I have no idea what I’m talking about so I’ll just assume everything is cheap and easy”

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        As much as the machines cost, something like that wired up with a metal detector so that if the machine is on and there’s metal in the airlock it will never open would actually be a good solution…

        But it would take a society that values human life and absence of suffering over money. Because like someone else pointed out, the hospital ain’t the one paying to fix the machine.

        Maybe Canada would be interested?

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          This basically never happens. You want to spend billions guarding against humanity stupidity? Good luck with that.

          But it would take a society that values human life and absence of suffering over money.

          🙄

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          MRI’s are still plenty dangerous when they aren’t scanning(“on”). The magnets don’t ever turn off unless you release all the helium which is typically a last resort. They can do it slowly for servicing but it’s costly or rapidly for emergencies but it usually trashes things.

          Seems like the simplest solution is having a locking observation booth. Family can watch from the booth or go to the waiting room. This doesn’t prevent staff from responding to anything and actually keeps the family out of the way if there is an emergency. No high tech gizmos required. Are they go to like it? Probably not. Then off to the waiting room.

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            Thanks for the info!

            Honestly tho, it’s pretty crazy they let dude roam around a hospital with 20lbs of chain around his neck. That’s literally a deadly weapon.

            I don’t care what story he gave, he should have been told to leave it in his vehicle.

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          idk, maybe the hospital has insurance for idiocy. But the people that broke it almost certainly can’t afford an MRI machine, so they ain’t paying.

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          I apologize if im completely misunderstanding, but what “non idiots” are at risk, in what circumstances? Shouldn’t there always be a tech?

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            No apology necessary.

            There are emergencies that could happen anywhere, including in an MRI room. Dealing with emergencies, ease of ingress and egress is paramount.

            The proposed solutions would hamper access to these rooms during emergencies, putting patients and techs in harms way (the non idiots), in the name of preventing a moron from giving themselves a Darwin award.

            I think it would be a net negative, ie. more people would die/get hurt trying to make an idiot proof enclosure.

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      His wife told News 12 Long Island in a recorded interview that she was undergoing an MRI on her knee when she asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table. She said she called out to him.

      Where does it say he ran in? I mean, what you say sounds right, but this doesn’t read like “freaking out”

      Edit: Sounds like she did not freak out, but called to him to help her stand up after it was complete (bad knee), but before he was authorized to enter. This seems more like an honest mistake and tragedy. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/20/health/mri-machine-death-long-island

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      I’m just thinking about the poor woman. She’s forever going to be haunted with the knowledge that she was the one who called him into the room, and thus led to his death. His decision to come in wasn’t thought out, but that probably won’t relieve her feelings of guilt for having called him in. Such a tragic story.

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        Uh she was in the room likely still on the bed laying down considering the story given. So like she’ll have some rowdy memories of dude getting mushed into a machine a speed then slowly suffocate if they weren’t lucky enough to hit their head really really fucking hard.

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        She’s not going to have one whit of self awareness. I may be going out on a limb here, but it doesn’t sound like he was exactly the sharpest bulb in the ocean, and her reported cry to “turn off” the MRI (despite the repeated screenings you get prior to an MRI, warnimg patients about metal) indicate she isn’t either. She’s 100% gonna blame the provider and sue, adding to the rising cost of healthcare.

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          This is a really unempathetic response. I know shit’s tough right now and there are a lot of fools out there, but I beg you to at least try to give the benefit of the doubt and try to think through why people might do the things they do, especially when it’s someone enduring a personal tragedy that’s being publicly scrutinized. Think about the poor old woman who had hot coffee spilled on her crotch at a drive through and endured agonizing disfiguring burns - McDonald’s ran a campaign to paint her as a scammer and opportunist when she had done nothing wrong at all.

          Most people don’t intentionally endanger themselves or their loved ones and they are usually very deferential to authority, especially in medical settings. There’s nothing to indicate this was any more than a miscommunication involving a heavily blinged-out guy who did nothing wrong. The MRI folks didn’t think to brief him because he wasn’t in the danger zone. His wife called for help. Maybe a very observant doctor could have noticed the guy’s jewelry and gave him a warning. Maybe the wife could have recalled that her husband was wearing metal before calling for him. Maybe the doctors could have better screening procedures for people in the waiting area, or better procedures to control access to the MRI room. I can’t say based on the available information that anyone lacks self awareness or did anything obviously wrong here. Sometimes a lot of coincidences line up to make something terrible happen.

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          Aren’t you just a shining beacon of logical, data-driven level-headedness. The fuck is she supposed to do, mentally recite each sign she saw on her way in as her spouse is being crushed before to determine if her request is feasible? Crawl out of the MRI, past her dying partner, and go read the manual to see if the MRI has an emergency stop capability before asking the technicians to intervene?

          I wish you the best in your future human interactions. I hope very few of them are life-threatening because clearly, you’ll be of no help if you deem the situation avoidable or deem help unlikely to be successful.

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      That door should absolutely be locked while in operation. That door being forced open should be an e-stop event.

      Someone could walk in there with a firearm or a bowey knife or anything.

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        Then the door will always be locked, unless the MRI is being serviced, as the magnet is always active. Kinda kills the point of the machine, no? That said they could put in more safeguards for sure. Though you would think all the signs on and near the door, and the extensive explanation you get, would be enough. But here we are.

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    I… want to see that 9 kg necklace. I mean, sounds like it’s just a big-ass chain, but if so, how did it not throw up red flags all around letting this guy wear it around that machine.

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      It wasnt a necklace…

      It was a literal metal chain, like steel. Not a gold cuban link chain or something with a huge medallion a rapper would wear.

      Apparently this idiot just lived everyday with a 20lb length of chain around his neck for “weight training”. The article mentions it was “a topic of discussion” on a prior visit, so it wasn’t a one time thing.

      The type of person to do that, is 100% the type of guy to run into an active MRI like he could do anything. Theres no logical thinking going on, and an outright refusal to listen to qualified medical advice. Like, they make weighted vests, at least do that instead of putting all that weight on your neck.

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        The type of person to do that, is 100% the type of guy to run into an active MRI like he could do anything. Theres no logical thinking going on, and an outright refusal to listen to qualified medical advice.

        Darwin, engage!

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        Yeah, there was a guy in my town who would run around with one of these around his neck. Similar type of idiot. He would actually run by the strength training gym and gloat to us that we were wasting our time lol, insisting that all we had to do was run around with a big chain.

        Hearing about this news story now I wonder if some influencer somewhere started a trend. People love feeling like they found “the secret”

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          It has all the Hallmarks…

          Starts with something based in science, but never goes past surface logic and ignores lots of existing and safe options for the most visible and attention grabbing method despite the serious medical flaws from this method.

          Even if you stay away from 1.5 tons magnets, that’s going to fuck your posture up before it translates to muscular gains.

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      how did it not throw up red flags all around letting this guy wear it around that machine.

      He wasn’t allowed in the room.

      His wife panicked in the MRI, he charged into the room he was told not to go Into.

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        Imagine the scene from her POV. She’s claustrophobic and having a meltdown because of all the hums and bangs and then her husband comes running in only to get pulled into the machine she is already stuck inside of. He’s screaming and can’t get pulled free while she is being pushed even harder into the machine she so desparately wants free from - by her husband who is quickly suffocating to death

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          While you wrote an interesting narrative, if you read the article the story is nothing like this, and even from her point of view would have been nothing like this.

          She had asked the nurse to call her husband to help her up from the table. She called out his name and he ran in while the machine was still going.

          He was pulled into the machine and was freed eventually but suffered multiple heart attacks after being pulled off the machine. The heart attacks are what killed him in the end in a hospital bed far from the MRI machine. He definitely did not suffocate.

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          It was a knee MRI. She wasn’t stuck inside it, she just wanted her husband to help get her off of the table instead of just the technician.

          Still a horrible scene though, but not quite as horrific as your first imagining.

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          There probably wasn’t any screaming. MRIs exert thousands of pounds of force at close range. You can imagine what thousands of pounds of metal would do to a neck.

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          So tragic, jesus. Also, it was obviously stupid, but in his defense he probably went into fight or flight and wasn’t thinking. Unfortunately he paid for it with his life.

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        The wife asked to see her husband. I don’t think the blame rests solely on the couple. The nurse should’ve stepped in. I’m also not sure why there wasn’t a emergency stop button.

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          There was on one that I’ve been in, not sure about this one.

          From my understanding, when an MRI is emergency stopped it doesn’t stop immediately, and it causes a lot of damage, so staff are less likely to use it in an emergency. Stupid, yes. But when you’re worried about getting fired for hitting a button, you’re less likely to think of a situation as an emergency. You would think “chain strangling a man” constitutes an emergency though…

          As for the staff not stopping the guy making a beeline for the door with more than just words, I’m not sure. I would prefer staff tackle me to the floor rather than let me blithely walk to my doom. Of course I’m only in my 30s…

          The hospital is absolutely partly to blame, especially if they didn’t properly convey the danger beforehand. All 3 hospitals I’ve recieved an MRI from have been pretty insistent about making sure I have no metal on or around me before I go in the doors though.

          I’d say it’s about 60/40 on the hospital.

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        the answers to all your questions lie in the article you didn’t read

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          The article doesn’t really answer much about the necklace though. I want to see a picture of it and understand why the fuck someone would wear it. Like “for weigh training” but what the fuck is he exercising on a random day in the hospital.

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      Was the necklace even related to the death? It says he had a “series of heart attacks” which doesn’t sound like something caused by being pulled toward the machine.

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        If the necklace impeded blood flow or even put a lot of strain on his circulatory system then it could have caused his heart attacks.

        Sounds like it wasn’t him being pulled towards the machine that killed him, it was being pinned against the machine for a prolonged period of time.

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          yeah what annoyed me was the Lady asking to just turn it off like you can just turn it off. i know she is desperate to undo her and her husband’s stupidity but the article framing those quotes like the tech was incompetent is bad journalism.

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            You absolutely can turn it off - it’s called quenching the magnet, and the tech absolutely should have been trained to do that in an emergency. There was no way in hell they were physically pulling him off. It’s obviously that they did eventually, but the article doesn’t say how long it took 🤷‍♂️ to be fair, I’d bet that basically all of the damage was done up-front, regardless - MRI magnets are so much stronger than most people realize.

    • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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      For anyone who might not know the area, Nassau County is the place that gave us George Santos. It is burgundy-red, only bested in racism by Suffolk county. The police departments are notoriously racist and will pull you over and interrogate you just for driving a beater. This was one of Trump’s favorite police departments during his first term, he infamously told them to bash people’s heads against their cop cars when arresting them.

      Sadly there are many very left leaning people trapped on Long Island, unable to leave because LI is an employment wasteland. It’s not cheap to live on LI either.

      Anyways, an idiot from Nassau won’t be missed.

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          …someone probably should’ve stopped him

          You don’t know what you don’t know. He probably wasn’t even thinking about how MRI machines work.

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            The technician let him in. There was an oversight somewhere but we don’t really know the details. Was the necklace under his shirt, was the receptionist on break, etc etc

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          Wearing a NINE kilogram necklace.

          That’s like approaching a campfire with clothes made out of tinder after soaking in some gasoline and drinking alcohol.

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    Don’t know how quickly custom vinyl stickers can be bought & delivered, but someone needs to slap a “Died Like A Cartoon Character” achievement on his casket/headstone.