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Dr. Moose@lemmy.world to You Should Know@lemmy.worldEnglish · 8 days ago

YSK There's a campaign to replace the distorted Mercator world map with the fairer Equal-Earth projection

correctthemap.org

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YSK There's a campaign to replace the distorted Mercator world map with the fairer Equal-Earth projection

correctthemap.org

Dr. Moose@lemmy.world to You Should Know@lemmy.worldEnglish · 8 days ago
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The Correct the Map campaign challenges the distortion of Africa’s true size on world maps, aiming to empower global understanding and respect for the continent’s significance.
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    Any map depicting UTC0 in the centre and not the international date line in the centre is unequal.

    -t Pacific nations.

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      I feel like thats why UTC never took off. They should have set 0 in the pacific ocean somewhere and everyone would have been much happier.

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    It’s a bit hard to find out where it actually originated from and who’s behind it. Judjing by their social media handlers, it’s a marketing agency Hello Makeda. Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t trust marketing agencies to be good judges on geographical projects.

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      They are only using the cause to promote their brand social responsibility probably. In any case, the issue with the distorted view of the map that ideologically and politically benefited one side has been known for decades, and most of the countries that were colonies now use the correct one.

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    Why does the map on the website need that draggable divider when both versions show both types of projection?

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      I was wondering the same thing.

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      You can’t see the reduced size versions inside the originals? They’re outlined in a different color.

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        That’s what I’m saying, both versions show both outlines.

        The coloring changes, but both show the same information.

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          Probably a very difficult thing to program? The color changing is a good workaround.

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            I just thought that it worked well with as a static image.

            But maybe someone had a bit of fun doing that divider effect.

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              Yeah, that’s basically what I was thinking.

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        it’s still a very strange design

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    Just want to point out… their “equal” and “correct” map is missing New Zealand…

    • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldOP
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      You mean the homepage infographic? Thats not the map. If you click download you can get accurate full maps based on this projection.

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        Why don’t they just put the actual map on their site? The video and slider map make usa canada and mexico look like islands…

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          There’s a big “Download” url: https://equal-earth.com/ here’s the standard english one https://www.equal-earth.com/Equal-Earth-Map-0.jpg

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        (Maps missing New Zealand is a meme)

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    Mercator distorts landmass to fit the grid, so it is good for navigation, simply draw a straight line between two points and follow it. Also, the plea on that site is just…weird. Africa is not taken seriously because it is displayed too small on maps - what? It is a large, chunky continent that can be compressed without too much detail loss - Europe, not so much.

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      Maybe Greenland’s size on the projection is what got Trump all worked up. :P

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      Yes, but thats only for navigation. The map was chosen to be used as the standard in colonial time, because it brainwashed the colonies to believe that the people subjugating them were from great and big countries on the other side of the world. There would be a lot more revolts if people actually knew that they were being held captives by weak dudes from some small european piece of land that was only a fraction of the size of their country.

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    Whatever map that uses Eurasia rather than pretend Europe is it’s own continent is fine by me

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    It’s now trivial, in 2025, to depict the world as a 3D shape, this is coming a few decades after it matters, imo.

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    The globe in the thumbnail is really bothering me. Does the artist not know how to align objects?

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      It was probably done for free by some volunteer dude… You can contact them and offer to fix it for free probably

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        I might just do that, thanks!

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      It’s also using mercator projection

  • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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    This is the best idea I’ve heard since that one weird website I found that said every country should put a sky blue pennant above their flag to remind us we share a planet.

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    Ampak Mercator je najboljši sosed. 😢

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    Geometry just isn’t PC

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    I mean the problem with any projection of earth onto a 2d simplified shape surface is that it will be inherently distorted. The Mercator projection is scaled properly towards the equator but has to scale upwards more and more toward the poles to be able to fit the given area.

    Even their own map, which for some reason isn’t shown in either the video or on the main page, isn’t accurate either. It’s better but is also warped in its own way, it would be nice if they had a little blurb that says something to that effect.

    Here’s the actual map projection they are pushing for; https://equal-earth.com/equal-earth-projection.html

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      Fuck that. Let’s go for the euler spiral.

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        I hope someone travels Antarctic to Alaska on this map

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        It seems like the kind of thing that would give rise to the ~ Earth movement

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          The Tildearth Society

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            A society predominantly attended by hobbits.

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            Tildearth desktop wallpaper

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              Hey this is great. Is there a1440p version?

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                I just threw it together for a joke, I could try to make a high res one after work tonight if I remember

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                  I would actually use this, great idea

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            On linux tilde also represent home. Can have cute double meaning.

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        I mean, I’m not exactly thrilled about it erasing my country… Did a cartographer from New Zealand make this as an act of revenge? 🤔

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          Which country? It seems to all be there. It might be cut in half or upside down, but it’s all there.

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            Oh wait, there it is! I was too disoriented to spot it, Denmark 😄

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              Wait, what the hell did Denmark do to New Zealand?

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                Idunno, maybe they want to go on a bicycling holiday and resent how far away we are 🤷

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        deleted by creator

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      In color

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      We could also have made Mercator maps of varying position, but that might not center Europe.

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    Since this article gave you everything except the one thing you want to see, here’s what the Equal Earth projection looks like

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      Yes, it is an awful website with an awful promotion video. Sizing the countries down but not connecting them and not showing you the world map as it would look like in total is absolutely not furthering the cause. I’m so mad I’m not sure I even want to sign the petition to be honest. Granted, my school atlas did not have the mercator projection.

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        Yeh, I mean I can see how using Mercator is subconsciously strengthening colonialist thinking, but to imply that the angles-stable area-distorted map that was much more convenient for naval navigation, was specifically chosen to misrepresent the size of the global south is borderline paranoid.

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        What really disappoints me about that site is the button that reads “Download the Correct Map”. They destroyed all their credibility with one word.

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          Oh God I didn’t even notice that, you’re absolutely right. Or, dare I say, you are correct.

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      Damn Russia is still that big? I thought the distortion played a large part in its size on the original map.

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        Yeah, but now it’s tiny compared to Antarctica

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          Pfft. Antarctica is but a few islands in an ice-sheet trench coat. If the ice sheets melted, it would remain uninhabited except for some stalwart rancher folk.

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            you need to tag nudity as NSFW

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      Greenland’s not that big is it?

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        Yes it’s still quite big, but not nearly as big as Australia (as Mercator would suggest). On a globe it is quite obvious, but who has a globe at home in 2025…

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          I do.

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    still not as aesthetic as Waterman butterfly projection

    (and relevant XKCD)

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      Came here to make sure that xkcd got posted. Well done.

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      I didn’t think I’d ever have a favourite map but here we are.

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      That projection shows how vast the Pacific is

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        It’s almost two entire sections, with just a little of North America, Asia, and Antarctica. And then some on four others. It’s obvious from a glance, no other body of water or land mass comes anywhere near that.

        And if you still don’t think that’s vast enough, maybe a lifetime of bad projections have given you a distorted view of the Pacific’s size. Mercator and Mercator like projections definitely make the Pacific look much too large near the poles.

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    This will never happen as long as Big Greenland pulls the strings of power in the cartography world.

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      And they’re very big. Have you looked at a map lately? Do you expect tiny little Africa to stand up to that?

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      It’s time the U.S. deals with big Greenland once and for Oil.

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